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Old 11-05-2007, 07:36 AM   #11 (permalink)
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There are three main factors in SEO. Authority(trust), PR and anchor text.

Directories mean nothing for the first two but for anchor text they mean a lot. You do not have to agree with me but Debra does

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Of course if directories are the only things you are doing, I agree with you it aint helping your case a heck a lot.
Mert,

I thought that is where you might going (re: SEO) and that is why I posted what I did. SEO is why there is discussion after discussion about reciprocal links and paid links. Why? Because most everybody looks at a link as to what kind of juice it will it provide and how much it is going to help their own site's rankings.

Whatever happened to what is the primary purpose of a link and that being it should be to drive traffic?
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:25 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Google has already been cracking down on directories. Now we all know that sometimes you have to take what Matt Cutts says with a grain of salt or read between the lines.

However he has said that directories that are FFA provide no seo value. In his words FFA meant any directory that you pay X dollars to join and there is no editorial requirements other than paying your money to be included within that directory. These type directories are falling off of google fast.

A couple of months or so ago several top named directories lost their rankings in Google, even for their own name. IMHO this was Google saying stop trying to manipulate our search engine with directory link spamming.

IMHO there are only a few directories out there that offer any seo benefit to a real estate website. 99.99% of directories out there again IMHO offer no real valuable consumer traffic to a real estate website.

Jay I am not sure about the traffic your directories offer from a consumer standpoint since I cant see your traffic logs but IMHO your directories have value only for real estate websites by means of maybe producing recip linking opportunities. I might be wrong and if so it wont be the first time
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
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That is exactly why you will not see hundreds of directory links pointing to my brokerage site.

All I said was it works for anchor text. I personally do not care about anchor text.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hi guys,

i wrote a blog on identifying a quality directory. I hope you will enjoy it. Also I want to thank Greg Boser for his contribution to the post.
Thanks for the post! I already feel smarter. I'll have to look further into this to find the right directories for my site....
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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All I said was it works for anchor text. I personally do not care about anchor text.
Generally speaking, quality directories don't allow its members to control anchor text in the link itself.

In the beginning, links were about traffic. Those of us who could not compete with the "big" companies that paid for banner ads on Alta Vista and many now defunct search engines got "links" from various places, including agents all over the web. The idea was to pull in "onesies twosies" traffic from having widespread links, then funnel that traffic to agents that made sense to the visitor.

Then Google happened.

Gradually, then suddently -- directories became more about PageRank than traffic.

What Jay is saying is that some directories still do deliver traffic to the directory members. If they require you to reciprocate links or pay for links, it won't matter -- you're still getting traffic (He and I used to compare how much traffic we referred out by reviewing the logs on our members' sites. His site beat mine by a lot, and caused me to modify what I am setting up on my newer site).

The opposite is true. If you are accumulating links mainly for PR purposes (blogs, blog comments, forum signature, directories, whatever), sooner or later (mostly later) that benefit will gradually decrease. Anything you do to "game" the system will eventually be of less value.

The "knock" on reciprocal linking was mostly against "peer-to-peer" reciprocal linking just for the purpose of inflating link totals and PageRank. Basically, it was an extension of the "knock" against automated link-farms.

Valuable links are always going to be valuable, whether they require payment, reciprocal linking, or nothing at all.
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Terry,

you and Jay created two of the best real estate directories out there. I have great respect for both of you on this subject and I absolutely agree with all your points. Since I gave a Debra example for before, I can give another one now.

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to show you i agree with you.
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I like her article. Good link.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:38 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hey Mert,

Thanks for sharing that article!! I just shared it on my site Definitely useful for those that have questions on whether to submit or not to submit!
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Thanks for sharing that article!! I just shared it on my site Definitely useful for those that have questions on whether to submit or not to submit!
Do you mean on Wanna Network. i can't locate it there.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:08 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Do you mean on Wanna Network. i can't locate it there.
Yeah, I placed it on Wanna Network here
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