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SEOWolf · 01-06-2006, 08:37 AM

It would appear that HHI Golf Guy was correct about linking tactics about to change as we know it.

Matt Cutts has recently indicated that the new “Big Daddy” Google update will discount standard reciprocal linking and penalize link farms.

HHI Golf Guy proposed exchanging articles with links months ago. You can see examples here:

South Carolina Real Estate

Las Vegas Real Estate

LVH has also picked up on the articles and ran with them.

This new linking technique may be worth further consideration by all or our Members if Matt Cutts is correct (and he usually is).

Anyone wishing to learn more about real estate article exchanges should PM HHI Golf Guy or LVH or you can post to this forum.

Just my 2¢ worth,

~VegasMack

HHI Golf Guy · 01-06-2006, 09:22 AM

Thanks for the plug, buddy!

Minimizing the impact of reciprocal links is a natural progression for search engines in an effort to combat link bombing and link spam.

I think that off-topic reciprocal links will get hit the hardest (i.e. say your real estate site traded links with a health food store). I think that relevant reciprocal links will retain some of their benefit, but only if the page that the outbound link is on is highly relevant to your site.

There's a bit more to my thoughts on link strategy. You can read about some of it on my real estate seo blog.

I also have a new site going online sometime in the next few months that is dedicated to swapping real estate mini-articles. At first it will be a free site, then in about one year it will progress to an annual fee site.

LVH · 01-06-2006, 06:43 PM

Yes thank you for the qudos. Reciprocal linking is going to be hurt in this new algo with google. All of us here in Las Vegas have seen what link farms and homepage linking can do for some sites. Once Google works out the bugs of the BigDaddy algo I am sure we will see several changes within the results pages for all our cities. One way links are the key IMHO to success on the web.

HHI Golf Guy · 01-07-2006, 10:18 PM

The link error to my blog has been corrected.

MarcinSarasota · 03-29-2006, 05:21 PM

You can also post your real estate related article here: www.RealEstateRag.com. The majority of the article pages have been indexed and cached by Google. It is a great way to get some one way links.

I am not sure it means much but if you search Google by the title of several of the articles posted (for example), www.realestaterag.com ranks better than many of the larger articles submission sites.

kthor · 04-21-2006, 04:03 PM

One way links are the key IMHO to success on the web.[/quote]

Submitting Articles are the wave of the future...until Google changes Algo..

HHI Golf Guy · 04-21-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kthor

Submitting Articles are the wave of the future...until Google changes Algo..

Standard article submission does not work well for most real estate web sites. After all, does anyone think that local real estate agents in your market will publish your articles on their own sites? Does anyone think that a real estate agent in Phoenix pick out an article from a Jacksonville agent to post on their own site?

Sure, you can write articles about mortgages, creative financing, staging your home, and similar articles. But there are already a zillion of those on the web. There's almost zero chance that someone will pick up that type of article.

More importantly, those types of articles do not diirectly relate to the main theme of your web site - your city + real estate.

What I'm getting at is that writing real estate and real estate related articles and submitting them to ezines is not going to build you a ton of quality links - if any at all.

There are ways to go about it. Just read through the stuff that LVH and I discuss on these forums to get some ideas.

BTW - RELHQ might be up and running again soon. I have a bunch of new clients and sites and will be shifting back in to link building mode soon.

HHI Golf Guy · 04-21-2006, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kthor

Submitting Articles are the wave of the future...until Google changes Algo..

One more thing. A properly SEO'd site at the top of the rankings will survive 99.999% of any algorithm changes. Those sites that get dumped are the ones that try to be tricky, sneaky, and especially take short cuts.

MarcinSarasota · 04-22-2006, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HHI Golf Guy

One more thing. A properly SEO'd site at the top of the rankings will survive 99.999% of any algorithm changes. Those sites that get dumped are the ones that try to be tricky, sneaky, and especially take short cuts.

I don't necessarily agree with this. I don't do anything sneaky and this last November when Google changed their algo I dropped for several key phrases for a few months. The results from November until the Big Daddy update in my opinion was a joke. Sucky sites with no content or duplicate content were ranking ahead of me. The results improved once Big Daddy came around.

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Originally Posted by HHI Golf Guy

What I'm getting at is that writing real estate and real estate related articles and submitting them to ezines is not going to build you a ton of quality links - if any at all.

I believe writing articles can be a good addition to a link strategy. I would rather take a diversified approach to this by getting one way links from a forum like this, reciprocal link exchanges, and one way links from the articles I write. The guys at Google, MSN, or Yahoo are truly the only ones who know for sure if these links are useful. The "SEO experts" can only make an estimated guess. I would not spend your life writing articles but doing one here and there could help you and I don't think it will hurt you. I think it is probably more valuable than reciprocal linking. What are the chances a guy searching my referral link pages happens to be looking to buy a home in Cleveland, Ohio and finds a link to a Realtor there? None. So what value is reciprocal linking other than for search engines?

kthor · 04-22-2006, 11:06 AM

In terms of Article submission, I dont expect to have the competition
put up the articles on there end..just some BL..for example had one article
submitted 6 weeks ago and already showing 590+ BL..so hopefully that would improve on some number.

hopefully just like in my porfolio diversifying would help with the numbers..

and yes some interesting info here and have been reading thru the threads.
doesnt hurt to try a few things

-that's why I have my other website for.lol