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Old 11-03-2007, 03:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default REW Forum Hacking Apology

Morgan Carey of Real Estate Webmasters offered a grossly inadequate apology for the break-in to the Pro Real Estate Network Forum on his Blog Friday November 2nd. (Read More)

In Morgan's apology he claims that an unnamed employee deleted “ONLY a few threads which were posted by one particular member that were basically geared towards a smear campaign against REW.” This is inaccurate. In our investigation so far we have found other threads created by more than one of our Members that were less than flattering about Morgan Carey and REW were deleted. For more on this go to our REW Hacks Real Estate Forum thread.

Please limit your posts in this thread to comments about Morgan Carey’s apology. Any comments about the actual REW Break-in should be directed to the thread shown above.

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Old 11-05-2007, 05:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I felt a need to respond to some of the replies on Morgans blog and since I didnt want to give him more content thought it appropreiate here.

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KING: Yes, it was wrong what happened. However those people are crazy as hell. They thrive on taking shots at REW whenever possible, out of pure jealousy and envy ( one of the bibles biggest sins). They have but a few members who just talk $@&# all day about nothing. I mean look at their sites and there product they are attempting to sell, PLEASE!
Ok Mr Kool Aid maybe you should have another glass. No one here is jealous of anything at REW. I for one honestly could care less about what information is being passed there or the success or lack of success REW or its members are having.

Lets look at facts here. You talk about product some members here are attempting to sell. Well lets look at those template sites REW sells vs the custom designs that most here have. 2nd Lets compare the custom ultimate IDX system being offered here vs the open realty/ open source idx program REW offers/offered with a few tweaks added to it.

Ive been around the block and trust me your product is at best on a scale from 1-10 a 3. From an seo perspective most of you are paying for seo services that dont help. I pay for none and yet I out rank a few of your members who are paying for REW services ( These Are Sites Morgan or his kool-aid drinkers have no clue about) :P

I spent about 15 to 20 hours working the seo and paid a big fat ZERO for it. How much have you paid Morgan and where again is your site ranked????

You talk about those people being crazy as hell. Yet you make a statement as though you are a christian but yet your words defend with such vigor and hatered...who sounds crazy now and you place yourself in the likes of famous sports jocks ..that is TOO FUNNY and a little CRAZY is you ask me. Its ok though drink another glass of Kool Aid you might fel better afterwards.


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Michael Jordan, Alex Rodriguez and yes including myself have to deal with psychopaths who are jealous and envy's of our success. The sad thing is how can you compare a "real" company such as REW to some "fate" wannabe company. The only clients they have is themselves.
I am sorry Mr Kool Aid Drinker you have been mislead about what you believe is a real company with REW. You say OUR success. So lets examine this statement. I personally have offices in four states within the US. I also own or am part owner of 5 other companies. I would venture to say I pay more in taxes per year than you make. ( a little childish but hey I like being a kid sometimes)

Anyway back to the real company statement. Real companies dont hire people that hack competitors forums and then try to cover it up..real companies dont banish their customers for disagreeing with the head Kool Aid drinker...real companies dont pass out Kool -Aid drinks to have their customers come to their defense...real companies dont operate on falsehoods or lies ( Morgan Knows What That Means) real companies dont sell porn then work for a respecting profession offering services.

Anyway KING I think you are the one who is crazy and jealous with envy because you pay for a subpar product and are still standing in line to find out what success is like. Your time may come soon though cause I bet the Kool Aid line gets shorter before long.
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Its probaly a good think your not paying for seo services because your not even ranking dude, at least the links your sig. I checked I gave up after the 50th result.!!
How many glasses of Kool Aid did it take you to figure that out LMAO. If you had read all the threads that you claimed you didnt you would see that I said I have sites that rank top 5 in Google that Morgan and his head Kool Aid drinkers know nothing about.

I found out a couple of years back that for some reason any site he knew about didnt rank. So I created these past sites without using them in Sigs and registering them where he or anyone else wont be able to to find so they stay safe.

Would it make you feel better if I put links in my sig of sites that rank?
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wayne doesn't own Famous Agents. That is owned by Jim Messenger. Jim is a good guy.

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I guess I was right because your forum automatically add anchor text to the famous agents link.
Does it really? Test follows:

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Real Estate Web Design — Real Estate Blogs
Real Estate Web Design — Real Estate Blogs

Wow. It does. I typed it in three different formats and two came out with anchor text instead of what I typed.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Terry,
You have done an excellent job of attempting to change the tone and subject of the other thread however your efforts are very transparent and I have allowed it to go unanswered long enough.

I will not allow you to hijack this or the other thread. Please stay on topic. Which is; Morgan Carey’s Apology for Forum Hacking

In case you forgot Terry, it was for posts that pertained to criminal behavior that amounts to REW Forum Sabotage and the resulting apology by Morgan Carey.

John,
Same applies for you sir.

If either you or Terry wishes to bash me or PREN feel free to start another thread, but all have been warned that we will stay on topic.

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Old 11-07-2007, 05:42 PM   #6 (permalink)
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-sounds like someone is jealous about the success of Morgan Carey, thats what I am getting out of all of this. I have read all of the post in the rew rant and it seems to me that all of your post are a smear on rew, every single one is filled with hatred and envy.

This is what I suspect, you LVH owns Real Estate Web Design — Real Estate Blogs. I don't know if this is true but maybe you know someone that owns the company. How do I know this, I googled that other fellow that you were talking about memser and that site was linked back to this famousangents site. Just like the ones in your sig.

I can see why you would be jealous over at rew they hav 11,000 members, you guys have a mere 350. The famous site ranks poorly for real estate websites. Rew ranks #2. This is what I think this is all about. I could be wrong this is a hypothesis weather this forum, LVH is connected to famousagents, I don't know.

It says in the bible that one of the seven deadly sins is envy. Here I placed a link here Envy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia because it seems like you don't know what it means.

Talking all of this trash does not set up a great business model. It does not make you look very professional. Is this the way you get business by smearing your competitor.

Yes no one has the right to go into someones elses forum and delete posts. Something had to be done, seems like this hole forums was set up to bash REW. When I first signed up, in the rules it was exactly the opposite of REW. I am a Christian and a man of god, I think every one should kiss and make up. There is no need for all of this ish talking.

JohnRogers: LOL I am sorry but my friend you have no clue. Your deductive skills are way off with my association with FamousAgents as well as with Morgan Carey.

Again I will say for the cheap seats. This isnt about me, it isnt about Terry, it isnt about You, its about Morgan Carey and his criminal act of hacking in to PREN.

For the record and again the cheap seats I will repeat one more time..my inter kid is about to come out LMAO...

I suspect I pay more in taxes than Morgan or you make in a year. Envy..I highly doubt it. Those 11k members at REW dont make me my living..the 350 members at PREN dont make me my living.

The reason I CHOOSE to defend PREN is because I have experienced the unethical and unprofessional work and personal relationship with Morgan Carey/Seo Guy and the creation of REW.

Based on what I know about the two forum owners. One is a decent guy and the other is a scam artist/ crook. Its not my fault you have been sent to PREN to fight a battle that the coward isnt willing to do.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Terry, You have done an excellent job of attempting to change the tone and subject of the other thread however your efforts are very transparent and I have allowed it to go unanswered long enough.

If either you or Terry wishes to bash me or PREN feel free to start another thread, but all have been warned that we will stay on topic.
I have no interest in bashing you, Mack. I dont' believe I have done that. If you believe I have, point it out, I will review it, and if I have "bashed" you, I will acknowledge it.

Above, you say I am diverting the other thread. I'm responding to your comment.

The main reason things seem to go off-topic in that thread, in my opinion, is because a certain few of you guys take personal snipes at me rather than remain on topic. Snide comments. Sarcasm. Unless I agree with you, you attack me personally. In response, I have only defended myself, not responded in kind with snipes or snide comments about you or your members.

Trust me, I have no interest in diverting a thread by pointing it directly at myself -- and I really wish it were not part of the discussion. However, as long as that tactic is used against me, I'll keep responding. I won't call you names, I won't engage in what you are doing, but I will point it out when you say something about me that is not true.

I don't know if you ever transferred to a new school in the middle of a school year. Well, there are always some kids that think they are tough and want to pick on the new guy. It's not really about winning or losing for either side, but its about standing up for yourself. I will never ever just let it go and not stand up for myself. I learned that lesson growing up all over the United States and Europe. I don't give. We can both walk away with respect, but until it stops -- every snide sarcastic comeback directed against me will be responded to.

If you want to talk about Morgan and the Real Estate Webmasters company, go ahead. As soon as Morgan admitted one of his employees was guilty, I was done. If you think Morgan did it himself (and not an employee) go ahead and comment about that, too -- with no responses from me. I'm done discussing that topic.

If you talk about the members of the REW forum, that's a different topic. I'm not involved with the REW company, but I am involved with the forum -- as a member. I am a member of many forums. I would like to be a welcome member of this forum, too -- but the unwarranted attacks are getting old.

As far as the above post with John Roberts goes, you're right. That was off topic. The reason I looked up "John Roberts" with the Washington State Department of Licensing is because I didn't believe he was for real. I thought it was another anonymous poster and you know my feelings about anonymous posters in forums -- no matter what side they are on. I didn't believe his post about the anchor text so I checked it out. He was right, I was amazed, and I made a comment. That was off topic and I apologize if you think I was doing that intentionally. I was not. The subject is dropped.
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Real Estate Web Design — Real Estate Blogs

Wow....
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And please, before anyone bashes me, I was just thinking out loud. I'm staying out of this.
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Understood Eric.

As for the link in question since you are neutral why not start a thread in vBulletin to find out what is going on with it and report you findings back here.

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