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Jared · 11-02-2007, 06:43 PM

SuburbanHouseHunters;

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A forum is only as good as it's members and the ability to have a high clash of ideas without having a high clash of personalities.

While it wasn't every member who took cheap shots, it was enough that each of you should look at your posts and ask yourself if that wording really was appropriate.

Trust me I understand this was a very heated topic for many of you due to past experiences. But please try and remember this is a open forum and your actions reflect on more then just yourself.

Its good to see you here;

Not to make excuses but although the thread was a little heated; I think the tenancy sometimes for people is that they discover where someone else has experienced a wrong but were never given the opportunity to really express it. I call it the "oh no kidding, happened to me too" scenario.

I know that many people have sent me Private Messages stating that "I may not understand the history of the situation in question" (paraphrased) and I simply reply that I do in fact realize lots of people have valid points and I know more than I dare disclose.

I encourage people to self regulate just a tad when you really want to give it to someone, rethink it and explain it. I also know there are some bruised egos based on some posts.

None the less, were all intelligent people, I'm certain we all want to continue being such.

~ Jared
P.S. I've spent time in here re reading every post and maybe its time to shake hands and get back to business. I wish there was this much energy in other areas of the forum.

LVH · 11-02-2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Griffin

Mert,

Can you site one example of obstruction of justice where there was no police investigation or trial in progress? Have the police begun investigating?

Its not obstruction of justice... it is aiding and abedding which is a criminal offense under US Law and since this took place within the US and the Passwords he stole where located on a US domain he would be govern by US law.

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Under 18 U.S.C. § 2, aiding and abetting liability is available in all federal criminal prosecutions; however, the availability and extent of civil aiding and abetting liability varies from statute to statute. Where available, aiding and abetting liability generally requires three elements: 1) an underlying violation by a principal; 2) knowledge of that violation and/or the intent to facilitate the violation; and 3) assistance to the principal in the violation.

neodemes · 11-02-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HomeSurfer.com

You've heard silly talk-show hosts refer top people as Kool-Aid drinkers. A lot of folks don't understand the reference. They just go with it.

In the 1960's Ken Kesey wrote a novel called One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, became famous amongst a select few, and his second novel was nearing publication. He and some friends he labeled "The Merry Pranksters" set off in an old school bus. Along the way to New York they dropped LSD into Kool-Aid and drank it. The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test. So when those guys on TV refer to someone as a "Kool-Aid Drinker," they are referring to how they perceive the people on that bus. On an acid trip, following Ken Kesey blindly, flying on lysergic acid diethylamide.

While that may be when the term was first coined, I believe it is more often used to describe cult followers since the tragic occurrence at Jonestown, when followers committed mass suicide by drinking poison punch or kool-aide. The inference being, of course, that REW represents a cult.

I know little about REW, and I plan to keep it that way, especially after reading the cracks about 'so-called Christians'.

My 2 cents.

LVH · 11-02-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SuburbanHouseHunters

I was pointed to this thread by 3 people, one actually called me and said I needed to chime in. I finally have had time to read every post and at first it was interesting, then it quickly became sad. Every time someone posted anything that didn't fit into the "groups" idea of the truth they got crap. Sure you may not ban people from your forum, but you give very little incentive to those that don't share your idea of the truth to come back.

A forum is only as good as it's members and the ability to have a high clash of ideas without having a high clash of personalities.

While it wasn't every member who took cheap shots, it was enough that each of you should look at your posts and ask yourself if that wording really was appropriate.

Trust me I understand this was a very heated topic for many of you due to past experiences. But please try and remember this is a open forum and your actions reflect on more then just yourself.

I can say as for myself and a few others here who did take it to the next level we were all screwed by Morgan Carey. Walk in my shoes for a sec. Here is a brief history.

1. I give him idea for REW

2. I work to setup REW to help him

3.I risk my rep on other forums to help him build the forum

4. I bring him clients

5.Charges me 2k per month for seo ( At Time Knew Nothing About Seo)

6. Charges me $1500 for design

7.Gets site ranked as promised

8. Site falls as quick as it ranked.

9. Site gets ban by google

10. He uses his position and rep to get me ban from forums I participate in.

11. Calls me a lair ( IE: Im Not A Client...REW Was His Idea..Convinces My Peers To Turn On Me..IE: Jim Messenger and Others like Jay Griffin and his merry troop..plus other things.

12. Insults my family..tell me my son would be better off if his father was dead.

13. Tried to cock block every new site I placed up...little does he know now though I have a couple of sites that out rank his on clients

in Google

So yes there are some of us who did get nasty BUT I am not sorry for what I have EVER said about Morgan Carey or ever will be...even though I may be a little harsh every thing I have said about Morgan is TRUE.

WebGuerrilla · 11-02-2007, 07:28 PM

Final Comments on this Topic:

1. I would have been more than willing to except the potato. (Although I new it wouldn't be neccessary).

2. It's Guerrilla. Not Gorilla or Guerilla.

3. The Kool Aid reference is definitely from Jim Jones. (aka Morgan Carey) And the fact that a female cult member returned to this forum and made her exit by making everyone grovel and apologize for a rape reference is a perfect example of how much of a cult REW is.

If she had the least amount of self-respect, she would have at least acknowledged the fact that all the accusations were correct before unleashing the man-guilt. But she didn't. And everyone here let her leave looking like the victim. And that is text-book cult marketing 101.

LVH · 11-02-2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WebGuerrilla

Final Comments on this Topic:

1. I would have been more than willing to except the potato. (Although I new it wouldn't be neccessary).

2. It's Guerrilla. Not Gorilla or Guerilla.

3. The Kool Aid reference is definitely from Jim Jones. (aka Morgan Carey) And the fact that a female cult member returned to this forum and made her exit by making everyone grovel and apologize for a rape reference is a perfect example of how much of a cult REW is.

If she had the least amount of self-respect, she would have at least acknowledged the fact that all the accusations were correct before unleashing the man-guilt. But she didn't. And everyone here let her leave looking like the victim. And that is text-book cult marketing 101.

You know I really dont know you but I can tell already I like you ...LOL thats priceless.

Jared · 11-02-2007, 07:43 PM

WebGuerrilla;

Love your work, glad to make the connection which escaped me for a moment. Very pleased to have you in this forum. Beautiful work, I'm a fan.

~ Jared

Mert · 11-02-2007, 07:45 PM

Wayne, meet Greg Boser, SEO VIP, god almighty of SEO Marketing (ok may be second in command after Danny Sullivan),

We hail and worship our God Greg. Wayne bow down and worship your god

. Hey Greg I am gonna write a blog about Cult Marketing and using you as a quote. That was the best freakin example anyone could give me.

P.S. Greg I will send you some questions for a very mini interview on this subject. That was brilliant and so true. I never laughed so hard.

SuburbanHouseHunters · 11-02-2007, 08:15 PM

Mert you are to funny, kiss a little more ass

. And to avoid any confusion Mert and I have know each other for years so don't bother defending him, he knows I messing with him.

Wayne I wasn't questioning the validity of comments made about Morgan or talking about anyone making nasty comments about Morgan directly, more about attacking those that joined the discussion that questioned what we now know is fact. None of the list of past offenses by Morgan to you excuses attacking someone (except maybe the offender directly).

Questioning someones motives is one thing, but some of the comments where out of line (not pointing fingers, that is for individual posters to decide). Seriously just have someone that isn't involved in this read what has been written in this thread and ask them their opinion of it. I will place a wager that says they say many here acted like jerks.

MCHammered · 11-02-2007, 09:07 PM

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A forum is only as good as it's members and the ability to have a high clash of ideas without having a high clash of personalities.

While it wasn't every member who took cheap shots, it was enough that each of you should look at your posts and ask yourself if that wording really was appropriate.

You have the luxury of preaching here, but you don't do that on REW where people have been publicly flogged.

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Originally Posted by SuburbanHouseHunters

that questioned what we now know is fact.

Only a small percentage didn't know in their gut that it was true. For Home Surfer that news was no surprise to him. He played devil's advocate for the hell of it.

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Questioning someones motives is one thing, but some of the comments where out of line (not pointing fingers, that is for individual posters to decide).

The outrage directed at those who were outraged at what turned out to be the truth is amazing.