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SEOWolf · 11-02-2007, 06:00 AM

No offence Terry I don’t know you and how deep your relationship with Morgan goes. Surrendering evidence arbitrarily would be contrary to advice I have been given.

You mentioned Greg. While I don’t know him but I do know of his reputation and this is not the first time he has appeared in our Forum.

So if you trust Greg and are agreeable I can contact him and see if he wants this hot potato.

What say you?

~VegasMack

BTW – still have you beat on the time thing and yes I really am from Missouri.

Mert · 11-02-2007, 07:23 AM

About Morgan's commentary below------

An apology to PREN - Morgan Carey's Blog - REW Blogs Real Estate Blogs

Who did I give a password to?????? How could I give a password to an employee when I have not had a client relationship with them for over 15 months????

Why is not that man reported to local authorities by Morgan "as a man of integrity" for internet crimes? Is not that an obstruction of justice????

How can that man still be possibly employed by Morgan?????? AND actually have access to any password of any of REW clients?????

Morgan Carey is either a liar or is guilty of obstruction of justice.

Jared · 11-02-2007, 07:38 AM

In a previous post I said;

"I have this gut feeling someone other than Morgan is going to step up and take the fall which will be followed by a formal apology from Morgan and then an announcement that will be perceived by everyone as a heroic and noble thing....."

~ Jared

Jay Griffin · 11-02-2007, 07:39 AM

Very interesting thread. For a moment let's assume Morgan or one of his employees or associates did in fact do what has been alleged. What law has been broken?

Are you referring to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act? If so the value of the information obtained has to be a minimum of $5,000 for conviction. Has there been that much loss?

§ 1030 : AS AMENDED OCT. 11, 1996

If there is not $5000 in loss and it is not the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, what statute applies here? Just curious.

MCHammered · 11-02-2007, 08:00 AM

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For a moment let's assume Morgan or one of his employees or associates did in fact do what has been alleged.

No need to assume.

Help yourself to the kool aid.

LVH · 11-02-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Griffin

Very interesting thread. For a moment let's assume Morgan or one of his employees or associates did in fact do what has been alleged. What law has been broken?

Are you referring to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act? If so the value of the information obtained has to be a minimum of $5,000 for conviction. Has there been that much loss?

§ 1030 : AS AMENDED OCT. 11, 1996

If there is not $5000 in loss and it is not the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, what statute applies here? Just curious.

Maybe you just forgot to read this subsection

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4) knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization, or exceeds authorized access, and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $5,000 in any 1-year period;

(5)

(A) knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;

(B) intentionally accesses a protected computer without authorization, and as a result of such conduct, recklessly causes damage; or

(C) intentionally accesses a protected computer without authorization, and as a result of such conduct, causes damage;

(6) knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics (as defined in section 1029) in any password or similar information through which a computer may be accessed without authorization, if--

MCHammered · 11-02-2007, 08:19 AM

From the apology:

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I decided to take the high road and document exactly what they were saying in case it got to far past their normal REW bashing and into the realm of slander / libel (I am not a lawyer so am not going to post which one it actually is)

Slander vs libel, but since the allegations are true, there is no libel.

Mert · 11-02-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay Griffin

Very interesting thread. For a moment let's assume Morgan or one of his employees or associates did in fact do what has been alleged. What law has been broken?

Are you referring to the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act? If so the value of the information obtained has to be a minimum of $5,000 for conviction. Has there been that much loss?

§ 1030 : AS AMENDED OCT. 11, 1996

If there is not $5000 in loss and it is not the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, what statute applies here? Just curious.

Invasion of privacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (invasion of privacy)
About Identity Theft - Deter. Detect. Defend. Avoid ID Theft (identity theft).

I have not been a client of REW for almost a year and a half so I have not possibly given them permission to my forum usernames.

LVH · 11-02-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MCHammered

No need to assume.

Help yourself to the kool aid.

LMAO thats TOO FUNNY

Jay Griffin · 11-02-2007, 08:53 AM

LVH,

As you posted in section #4 it states, "(4) knowingly and with intent to defraud, accesses a protected computer without authorization, or exceeds authorized access, and by means of such conduct furthers the intended fraud and obtains anything of value, unless the object of the fraud and the thing obtained consists only of the use of the computer and the value of such use is not more than $ 5,000 in any one-year period;"

Has there been a $5,000 loss?